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		<title>By: APEBOX.ORG &#187; Archive &#187; Chicken Little Remix 9.10 &#8211; Karmic Kraienköppe</title>
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		<dc:creator>APEBOX.ORG &#187; Archive &#187; Chicken Little Remix 9.10 &#8211; Karmic Kraienköppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note: this remix is dead. Deceased. It is no more. See here. If in need try here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/219/comment-page-1/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2012&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@directhex&lt;/a&gt;, 

Very true Jo, hence the problem.  Seeing how he is a forum moderator his voice carries a lot of weight.  On the one hand I feel that leaving the forums is a good idea, because  I don&#039;t like him making personal attacks on me.  On the other hand, it annoys me to see him spreading half-truths and false accusations unchallenged.  Still as you say, such is life.

Still there is one positive, before his threads, I knew next to nothing about mono (or C#).  After researching his claims, I&#039;ve become fascinated by C# and mono and I&#039;ve started to teach myself programming using both.  That forum moderator was less then pleased when I thanked him for giving me the opportunity to learn about mono ;).  Hopefully once I&#039;ve learnt enough I can be contribute to the community by helping out on an open-source C# project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2012" rel="nofollow">@directhex</a>, </p>
<p>Very true Jo, hence the problem.  Seeing how he is a forum moderator his voice carries a lot of weight.  On the one hand I feel that leaving the forums is a good idea, because  I don&#8217;t like him making personal attacks on me.  On the other hand, it annoys me to see him spreading half-truths and false accusations unchallenged.  Still as you say, such is life.</p>
<p>Still there is one positive, before his threads, I knew next to nothing about mono (or C#).  After researching his claims, I&#8217;ve become fascinated by C# and mono and I&#8217;ve started to teach myself programming using both.  That forum moderator was less then pleased when I thanked him for giving me the opportunity to learn about mono ;).  Hopefully once I&#8217;ve learnt enough I can be contribute to the community by helping out on an open-source C# project.</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
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		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2011&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve&lt;/a&gt;, he&#039;s still making serious accusations with no foundation in reality. Such is life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2011" rel="nofollow">@Steve</a>, he&#8217;s still making serious accusations with no foundation in reality. Such is life.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2010&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve&lt;/a&gt;, 

Actually upon rereading the thread, he didn&#039;t actually say Microsoft paid off Mark Shuttleworth. He said that commercial  C# developers purchased seats on the Ubuntu Advisory Council in order to stay the UTB into making Ubuntu defendant upon mono.  He also very strongly hinted that Mark Shuttleworth profited from this.  Sorry about this error in my previous comment, I was posting from memory and my memory these days is a bit hazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2010" rel="nofollow">@Steve</a>, </p>
<p>Actually upon rereading the thread, he didn&#8217;t actually say Microsoft paid off Mark Shuttleworth. He said that commercial  C# developers purchased seats on the Ubuntu Advisory Council in order to stay the UTB into making Ubuntu defendant upon mono.  He also very strongly hinted that Mark Shuttleworth profited from this.  Sorry about this error in my previous comment, I was posting from memory and my memory these days is a bit hazy.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having recently made the same decision about the Kubuntu forums I can understand where you are coming from.  The only thing that concerns me is that the absence of those of us who like mono will give the FSF zealots free reign to continue their mono FUD.  This disturbs me somewhat.  To be clear, I have no problem if someone doesn&#039;t like mono and doesn&#039;t want to use it.  I do have a problem when people, like one particular Kubuntu forum moderator, posts accusations such as implying that Microsoft paid off Mark Shuttleworth to have C# developers placed in the Ubuntu Technical Board in order to sway the board towards making Ubuntu dependent upon mono.  

Wish you the very best Jo and I look forward to reading some more of your blog posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently made the same decision about the Kubuntu forums I can understand where you are coming from.  The only thing that concerns me is that the absence of those of us who like mono will give the FSF zealots free reign to continue their mono FUD.  This disturbs me somewhat.  To be clear, I have no problem if someone doesn&#8217;t like mono and doesn&#8217;t want to use it.  I do have a problem when people, like one particular Kubuntu forum moderator, posts accusations such as implying that Microsoft paid off Mark Shuttleworth to have C# developers placed in the Ubuntu Technical Board in order to sway the board towards making Ubuntu dependent upon mono.  </p>
<p>Wish you the very best Jo and I look forward to reading some more of your blog posts.</p>
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		<title>By: anaon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anaon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MONO NEEDS YOU

I LOVE YOU LONG TIME

SORRY BAD ENGLISH I FROM MICROSOFT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MONO NEEDS YOU</p>
<p>I LOVE YOU LONG TIME</p>
<p>SORRY BAD ENGLISH I FROM MICROSOFT</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
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		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1982&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Jeffrey Stedfast&lt;/a&gt;, the floof goes on, but Mio has resigned her post as a Microsoft Technical Evangelist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-1982" rel="nofollow">@Jeffrey Stedfast</a>, the floof goes on, but Mio has resigned her post as a Microsoft Technical Evangelist</p>
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		<title>By: stoffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>stoffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Stedfast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Stedfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! But also, don&#039;t forget to add blogging/tweeting about floofy chinchillas to your &quot;will NOT be changing&quot; list!</description>
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