Comments on: Here we go again – why Mono doesn’t suck http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/ we like kittens and spoons and cake Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:55:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: directhex http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-15797 directhex Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:24:54 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-15797 <a href="#comment-13507" rel="nofollow">@Luis Da Costa</a>, it's .exe files because the ISO spec says it is, and Mono tries to be Standards compliant. Removing that would be a needless breakage of compatibility for no tangible gain. @Luis Da Costa, it’s .exe files because the ISO spec says it is, and Mono tries to be Standards compliant. Removing that would be a needless breakage of compatibility for no tangible gain.

]]> By: Luis Da Costa http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-13507 Luis Da Costa Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:24:07 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-13507 I'm gonna be honest with you... I have Microsoft but I just love Mono and the MonoDevelop IDE... for me the real problem, are the .exe files... I don't understand why in Linux we got to have .sh files that launches .exe (for example), and not bin files that could be launched with an .exe or a .bat in Windows... This is the only reason I will not develop for mono and I don't agree with the instalation of Mono or derivate mono apps in any Linux Distribution... Call me fanatic, call me whatever you want.. it is just my humble opinion... Btw very nice post that help me understand a lot of things ^^ Once again thank you. I’m gonna be honest with you… I have Microsoft but I just love Mono and the MonoDevelop IDE… for me the real problem, are the .exe files… I don’t understand why in Linux we got to have .sh files that launches .exe (for example), and not bin files that could be launched with an .exe or a .bat in Windows…

This is the only reason I will not develop for mono and I don’t agree with the instalation of Mono or derivate mono apps in any Linux Distribution…

Call me fanatic, call me whatever you want.. it is just my humble opinion…

Btw very nice post that help me understand a lot of things ^^ Once again thank you.

]]> By: Stallman warns of Mono ‘risk’ | Linux Debian http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-7437 Stallman warns of Mono ‘risk’ | Linux Debian Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:02:10 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-7437 [...] with that, whichever libraries they happen to use,” wrote Debian developer Jo Shields in a blog post earlier this month. “Mono is not a threat.” Related Posts:GNOME creator respects [...] [...] with that, whichever libraries they happen to use,” wrote Debian developer Jo Shields in a blog post earlier this month. “Mono is not a threat.” Related Posts:GNOME creator respects [...]

]]> By: Stallman warns of Mono ‘risk’ | Linux Debian http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-7438 Stallman warns of Mono ‘risk’ | Linux Debian Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:02:10 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-7438 [...] with that, whichever libraries they happen to use,” wrote Debian developer Jo Shields in a blog post earlier this month. “Mono is not a threat.” Related Posts:GNOME creator respects [...] [...] with that, whichever libraries they happen to use,” wrote Debian developer Jo Shields in a blog post earlier this month. “Mono is not a threat.” Related Posts:GNOME creator respects [...]

]]> By: Sasha http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-6756 Sasha Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:11:28 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-6756 Mono is big trojan Mono is big trojan

]]> By: Ivaylo Slavov http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-3630 Ivaylo Slavov Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:47:46 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-3630 Finally one good read on this topic. I have known about this anti-mono campaign for about a month now, but I never happened to read a good explanation of the PROs and CONs of its usage. Especially the cons were given in a blurry fashion - patent violations - which patents? No proof, no citing, no reasonable argument. Thanks for the good article - it really clarified out some of my doubts. The other doubts disappeared after I read a few of the responses here. Really, people, wake up! How do you expect the end user to get sued for using a patented software (as some say Microsoft's software) while at the same time this software is legally published for free usage and exploitation form its respective vendors. If someone should really be a subject of judgment in case of patent violation, its the vendor, not the end user. As Mr. Shields's article says - GNU relates to UNIX as MONO to Microsoft.NET. It is an OPEN ALTERNATIVE that brings the BENEFITS of a technology naturally designed for the Windows OS to the OPEN SOURCE WORLD. It provides, it GIVES you all the benefits and the opportunities to explore enjoy and even develop better applications and CROSS PLATFORM SOFTWARE. It is WIDENING the horizons of the software world, NOT RESTRICTING them. And for all those anti-MICROSOFT people out there I have something to say. MS is really not a pleasant player in the software world, someone said it is a corporation with a wide selection of idiots in various positions. MS does have a bad attitude to open source and openness at all. MS sucks. Probably yes. Now let me ask all those of you who happen to be ruby/python/php developers and enjoy the use of the asynchronous javascript and XML (aka AJAX). I bet there are a few of you out there. Now suprise - the core convept of AJAX was actually based on something invented by your beloved Microsoft (see it in Wikipedia if you don't believe me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest). The interesting part is that it has not been created to serve all the purposes that it serves today (obviously, MS did not expect any practical usage of it outside the MS Outlook Web Access context). But, is AJAX bad? Is all the web now sick and dying because a core component of all the AJAX websites originates from an MS creation? What I am trying to say here is that MS.NET here is the same thing as the IXMLHTTPREQUEST COM interface that MS once invented. And MONO one day will become it's wide opensource adoption and the one that will make the .NET framework almost equally efficient and important to the software world as AJAX is now for the WEB. Or maybe we should all one day stop eating meat because of how a bad thing is killing animals to produce food. Finally one good read on this topic. I have known about this anti-mono campaign for about a month now, but I never happened to read a good explanation of the PROs and CONs of its usage. Especially the cons were given in a blurry fashion – patent violations – which patents? No proof, no citing, no reasonable argument. Thanks for the good article – it really clarified out some of my doubts. The other doubts disappeared after I read a few of the responses here. Really, people, wake up! How do you expect the end user to get sued for using a patented software (as some say Microsoft’s software) while at the same time this software is legally published for free usage and exploitation form its respective vendors. If someone should really be a subject of judgment in case of patent violation, its the vendor, not the end user. As Mr. Shields’s article says – GNU relates to UNIX as MONO to Microsoft.NET. It is an OPEN ALTERNATIVE that brings the BENEFITS of a technology naturally designed for the Windows OS to the OPEN SOURCE WORLD. It provides, it GIVES you all the benefits and the opportunities to explore enjoy and even develop better applications and CROSS PLATFORM SOFTWARE. It is WIDENING the horizons of the software world, NOT RESTRICTING them.
And for all those anti-MICROSOFT people out there I have something to say. MS is really not a pleasant player in the software world, someone said it is a corporation with a wide selection of idiots in various positions. MS does have a bad attitude to open source and openness at all. MS sucks. Probably yes. Now let me ask all those of you who happen to be ruby/python/php developers and enjoy the use of the asynchronous javascript and XML (aka AJAX). I bet there are a few of you out there. Now suprise – the core convept of AJAX was actually based on something invented by your beloved Microsoft (see it in Wikipedia if you don’t believe me – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest). The interesting part is that it has not been created to serve all the purposes that it serves today (obviously, MS did not expect any practical usage of it outside the MS Outlook Web Access context). But, is AJAX bad? Is all the web now sick and dying because a core component of all the AJAX websites originates from an MS creation? What I am trying to say here is that MS.NET here is the same thing as the IXMLHTTPREQUEST COM interface that MS once invented. And MONO one day will become it’s wide opensource adoption and the one that will make the .NET framework almost equally efficient and important to the software world as AJAX is now for the WEB. Or maybe we should all one day stop eating meat because of how a bad thing is killing animals to produce food.

]]> By: A Response to: Fuck you, Richard Stallman and other GNU/Trolls http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-3421 A Response to: Fuck you, Richard Stallman and other GNU/Trolls Tue, 19 Oct 2010 01:03:37 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-3421 [...] like the Fedora Project Board, the Free BSD Foundation, the Ubuntu Foundation, etc. Please read Jo Shield’s article if my intellectually devoid rant hasn’t convinced [...] [...] like the Fedora Project Board, the Free BSD Foundation, the Ubuntu Foundation, etc. Please read Jo Shield’s article if my intellectually devoid rant hasn’t convinced [...]

]]> By: The Mono Firefight http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-3419 The Mono Firefight Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:21:54 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-3419 [...] Jo Shields volunteered to write a reply, A Guest Essay In Favor of Mono (#1) which he also reposted on his own blog as Here we go again – why Mono doesn’t suck. [...] [...] Jo Shields volunteered to write a reply, A Guest Essay In Favor of Mono (#1) which he also reposted on his own blog as Here we go again – why Mono doesn’t suck. [...]

]]> By: Dave Page http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-2658 Dave Page Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:27:20 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-2658 <a href="#comment-2295" rel="nofollow">@David</a>, I hope you're aware that just because an application isn't installed by default, it's not easily available to you. However, you wouldn't be the first Ubuntu user I've seen who wasn't aware, so I feel it's worth repeating here :) Ubuntu's repositories contain many applications (including GIMP and GIMP-GAP) which are not installed by default. You don't need to download software from the manufacturer's website, or compile source code yourself. Simply go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager (on Ubuntu 10.04 here) and search for "gimp", for example. @David, I hope you’re aware that just because an application isn’t installed by default, it’s not easily available to you. However, you wouldn’t be the first Ubuntu user I’ve seen who wasn’t aware, so I feel it’s worth repeating here :)

Ubuntu’s repositories contain many applications (including GIMP and GIMP-GAP) which are not installed by default. You don’t need to download software from the manufacturer’s website, or compile source code yourself. Simply go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager (on Ubuntu 10.04 here) and search for “gimp”, for example.

]]> By: És Mono (.net) realment dolent? | GNU/Linux.cat http://apebox.org/wordpress/rants/124/comment-page-4/#comment-2606 És Mono (.net) realment dolent? | GNU/Linux.cat Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:45:34 +0000 http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/?p=124#comment-2606 [...] Why mono doesn’t suck [...] [...] Why mono doesn’t suck [...]

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