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	<title>Comments on: 4 GiB? Try 6.</title>
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		<title>By: Mahomedalid Pacheco</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-849</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahomedalid Pacheco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-829&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@directhex&lt;/a&gt;, so bad :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-829" rel="nofollow">@directhex</a>, so bad :(</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Never seen this tool. Which output would you suggest sharing with people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Never seen this tool. Which output would you suggest sharing with people?</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Matthews</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try using smem for actually acurate memory usage reporting.  

Requires a new (&gt;2.6.27 I think) kernel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try using smem for actually acurate memory usage reporting.  </p>
<p>Requires a new (&gt;2.6.27 I think) kernel.</p>
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		<title>By: alphaomega</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>alphaomega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@directhex&lt;/a&gt;, Ah, thanks for fixing my misunderstanding of the values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-825" rel="nofollow">@directhex</a>, Ah, thanks for fixing my misunderstanding of the values.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-838&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Alan&lt;/a&gt;,

Which actually brings me to a more important realisation. All the above apps (to the best of my knowledge) are media centre applications. They handle everything media related. xmms2 is purely a media player, so it&#039;s in a different category.

So yes, it&#039;s an interesting point in that we have a baseline to compare against when all you want to do is play music. But as a comparison to media centre applications, it&#039;s not quite as useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-838" rel="nofollow">@Alan</a>,</p>
<p>Which actually brings me to a more important realisation. All the above apps (to the best of my knowledge) are media centre applications. They handle everything media related. xmms2 is purely a media player, so it&#8217;s in a different category.</p>
<p>So yes, it&#8217;s an interesting point in that we have a baseline to compare against when all you want to do is play music. But as a comparison to media centre applications, it&#8217;s not quite as useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-833&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kelly Clowers&lt;/a&gt;,

I think his point was mostly that you&#039;re comparing apples and oranges there. For a more apples-apples comparison you&#039;d need to add the memory usage for both xmms2 a controlling GUI.

Though as with all these memory comparisons, you also should really take into account what features are offered in the GUI. It&#039;s easy to make an app that does essentially nothing and also takes up very little memory. It&#039;s hard to make an app that does a lot and also takes up very little memory. The trade is, as always, features versus memory.

For example, can xmms2 sync to/from your portable media device? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-833" rel="nofollow">@Kelly Clowers</a>,</p>
<p>I think his point was mostly that you&#8217;re comparing apples and oranges there. For a more apples-apples comparison you&#8217;d need to add the memory usage for both xmms2 a controlling GUI.</p>
<p>Though as with all these memory comparisons, you also should really take into account what features are offered in the GUI. It&#8217;s easy to make an app that does essentially nothing and also takes up very little memory. It&#8217;s hard to make an app that does a lot and also takes up very little memory. The trade is, as always, features versus memory.</p>
<p>For example, can xmms2 sync to/from your portable media device? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ka-Hing Cheung&lt;/a&gt;, re-measured. Someone else already told me off for using VIRT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-832" rel="nofollow">@Ka-Hing Cheung</a>, re-measured. Someone else already told me off for using VIRT.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Clowers</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Clowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Yeah, a daemon. Great choice for a GNOME desktop. *clapping*

You brought up Gnome, I did not. Personally, I run Awesome WM (although most of my non-CLI apps are GTK or or Gnome). Anyway, I just threw that out there for fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Yeah, a daemon. Great choice for a GNOME desktop. *clapping*</p>
<p>You brought up Gnome, I did not. Personally, I run Awesome WM (although most of my non-CLI apps are GTK or or Gnome). Anyway, I just threw that out there for fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ka-Hing Cheung</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ka-Hing Cheung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-820&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@alphaomega&lt;/a&gt;, 

I suspect he&#039;s on a 64bit system, where VIRT is inflated by shared libraries to a point that it&#039;s meaningless.

Dumping a bunch of numbers out is never useful, because people who don&#039;t know any better will just spread false rumors. I suggest that the VIRT column to be removed or at least a strong warning that those numbers are meaningless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-820" rel="nofollow">@alphaomega</a>, </p>
<p>I suspect he&#8217;s on a 64bit system, where VIRT is inflated by shared libraries to a point that it&#8217;s meaningless.</p>
<p>Dumping a bunch of numbers out is never useful, because people who don&#8217;t know any better will just spread false rumors. I suggest that the VIRT column to be removed or at least a strong warning that those numbers are meaningless.</p>
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		<title>By: directhex</title>
		<link>http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/113/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>directhex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a daemon. Great choice for a GNOME desktop. *clapping*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a daemon. Great choice for a GNOME desktop. *clapping*</p>
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